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## Structure

Problem <span>&rArr;</span> Thesis <span>&rArr;</span> Structure

## Apology

- Outsider
  - Speaking in a language that is not the court

<span>&rArr;</span> Knowing what good is enough for being good <span>&rarr;</span> connect between wisdom and good action <span>&rArr;</span> To find the truth of what is good

> Athenians are harming themselves since Socrates is the only one who concerns the truth and what truly good is.

- “Ancient” / Recent accusation
  - Bad association with pre/post
  - Ancient:
    - Physicist <span>&rarr;</span> enquire things in heaven and under the earth
    - Sophist: Use arguments that leads people away from the truth
      - Doesn’t care about physics
      - “human/political virtue” <span>&rArr;</span> People aren’t as wise as they were

- Corrupts the youth
  - Hates democracy
  - not believe to the gods of the state <span>&rArr;</span> can’t corrupt the youth: “No one does bad willingly. Corrupt person is more likely to harm people.” <span>&rArr;</span> If you know that you are harming people <span>&rarr;</span> you should come to me

> The unexamined life is not worth living

- Won’t act as what is good and knowledge <span>&rarr;</span> living a life of ignorance <span>&rarr;</span> not a worth living life.

## Phaedo

- Pain and pleasure
- How suicide is wrong, facing death = good ?
- Philosophers desire death?
- What if the soul is not immortal?
  - Single vs composite

> All knowing is remembering <span>&lArr;</span> posteriori

pp 62,63:

- We know absolute equality
- Material equalities fall short of absolute equality

> To see inequality <span>&rarr;</span> need to have knowledge of what absolute equality is, from experience

For Socrates <span>&rarr;</span> ideas are not fluid